Time to “Fair-Rite” out the issue!
Those of you who are regular blog readers know I have had my fair share of RFI that has affected my PC, washing machine, headphones and key. I have been doing some reading that all ferrites are not alike. Yes, they may be a mix 31 but there are good and very good ferrites on the market. I looked around at the popular dealers that dealt with chokes both beads, snap on and rings. I have read many good reviews on the Fair-Rite brand of ferrites. There were two electronic dealers I have dealt with in the past Mouser and Digikey. Mouser was where I ended up as I had ordered from them and was very happy. I found the Fair-rite snap-on chokes I wanted and ordered them along with one Fair-rite round ring ferrite. These items shipped the same day and were at my door in no time. My mission with the new ferrites was to solve my PC issue. When operating N1MM+ contesting program now and then (mostly at the most inconvenient of times) the Windows hourglass would pop up on my screen. For anywhere from 4 seconds to 20 seconds I was not able to transmit using any of N1MM+ macros. Not good when a station is waiting for a contest reply from me. The other thing that happened again in N1MM+ the log window would just go black. The only way to solve this issue was to restart the program.
I have an idea what the issue may be and I want to see if this Fair-Rite product is truly a quality product or not. More on that in the next post.
Mike at the EMC compliance test lab I worked at we always used Fair rite products. They helped most anyone that had problems passing the compliance requirements. Good stuff those Snap-on fair rite chokes! The mix determines the frequency of maximum attenuation. Look up a fair rite mix vs freq. sheet when you find where your problems are. Call me sometime and I’ll give you some trouble shooting tips I’ve found. (940) 390 3644 KB5UKT Mike
Good morning Mike and thanks for taking the time to read the post and leave a comment. Great to hear from someone in the field who uses this product. I have been very pleased with the results I have been having with the chokes and plan to blog on this in the near future. Thanks so much for the contact info as well.
73,
Mike
VE9KK
Having helped others to resolve transmit RFI issues for others – and occasionally for myself – the most common issue is that the feedline and, by extension, the radio itself – and everything connected to it (including the house by way of the power cord) becomes part of the antenna. Remember: Any coaxial transmission line has THREE separate conductors: The inner conductor, the inside of the shield and the outside of the shield – and it is currents flowing on the outside of the shield that are usually the problem for both transmit and receive.
It’s bad enough that in this situation, RF energy from noisy electrical devices *will* find its way back and into your antenna on the outside of the shield and degrade your receive performance, but it’s doubly bad that as part of your antenna, the circulating RF will likely play havoc with things in the shack – namely computer speakers, USB-connected devices, accessories like keyers and other devices within the house. In that case it’s likely that these problems are related not as much from the RF being picked up by the device, but simply reacting to the RF energy being conducted into the house via the feedline.
A common-mode choke on the feedline *at* the antenna is the first line of defense – and maybe another just prior to it entering the shack, *before* any coax grounding or lightning protection can offer significant improvement to both transmit and receive: 8-12 turns of small-diameter (RG-316) coax on a FT240 mix 31 or 43 toroid is a reasonably good performer across HF – with mix 43 being preferred for the higher bands (e.g. 20 meters and higher).
If ingress via the coax has been resolved and there are still issues, point-of-use ferrites on the affected devices is certainly appropriate. With *any* ferrite device – whether toroids or clamp-ons, getting as many turns through it as possible is the key: A single “turn” through the ferrite will likely have only marginal effect at HF frequencies as the doubling of turns generally results in the quadrupling of choking impedance.
As for “noisy” devices that emit HF RF via the mains power connection, it’s pretty rare that simply installing a ferrite device will “solve” the problem: At best one may experience an S-unit or two – but this often does not attenuate the QRM to extinction if the interference is strong. In such cases the addition of an L/C-based mains filter – which includes capacitors as well as inductors – that is bonded to the metal chassis of the offending device is called for. With appropriate attention to detail I’ve been able to quash interference from such devices to the point of undetectability.
73 and good luck!
Good morning Clint and thanks for all the great advice. At this point I do have a common mode choke at the antenna feed point and inside the shack. They both are FT-240 31 mix with 10 turns each. I looked at the attenuation with my Nano VNA and both were very decent. My vertical is only about 20 feet from the shack as I have a very small lot and that may be some of my issue as well. I am going to move to the next step now with snap-on chokes.
73,
Mike
VE9KK
Thanks for this information. Is there any listing that lists which mix of ferrite to use and where? I’ve tried all sorts of mixes with varying results and at different frequencies. A list of the mix and where to use from hams with more experience with these things would really help.
73,
Phil
K7TTI
Good afternoon Phil and thanks for taking the time to leave a comment. This is a very good question as using the incorrect mix would not get the desired results. Here is a link to Palamar Engineering regarding mix and frequency.
https://palomar-engineers.com/ferrite-products/ferrite-cores/ferrite-mix-selection
For HF bands generally mix 31 is the way to go and also getting a few turns through the ferrite increases the results.
73,
Mike
VE9KK
Thanks for that link Mike. I have purchased from Palomar before but never dilled deep enough down into their website for this type of information all in one place.
It’ll be useful for sure.
73
Phil
K7TTI
Good morning Phil I am glad I could help and if you have any other questions please feel free to ask.
73,
Mike
VE9KK
Fair-Rite does have a YouTube channel, and the single topic episodes are not very long. https://www.youtube.com/@FairRiteProductsCorp
Good morning Paul and thanks for the great link I had no idea they were on YouTube.
73,
Mike
VE9KK